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If Obama Wins

Posted in politics by Kathy on October 14, 2008

I had a few conversations yesterday at church which were interesting in a political sense. I talked to one person (Joseph), and he is absolutely convinced that if Obama wins, we’ll be a completely socialist country by the end of his first term. So he’s definitely voting for McCain/Palin. I talked to another person (Chris), and he can’t bring himself to vote for McCain, because McCain is too liberal for him. He’s afraid that if a quasi-conservative Republican is elected, then the true conservatives and the other Republicans in Congress won’t stop him from doing the too-liberal things, the way they’d play party politics and stop Obama from doing liberal stuff. Chris thinks that the current economic condition of the country will effectively stop Obama from putting into place any of the liberal garbage he’s promising (it just costs too much money to do universal health care — money which we don’t have because of the stupid bail-out), so for at least the first couple of years, he’ll be hamstrung; and at the end of that time, he thinks that there will be a real conservative revolution (rather like the 1994 Republican take-over of Congress), which will stop Obama for the remainder of the time.

I’m not so much worried about the socialism — although that does bother me. What concerns me more is the other social issues — issues that don’t take a lot of money, per se, like abortion. Obama has said he’s committed to passing the Freedom of Choice Act, which will (if I understand it correctly) codify the “right” to an abortion for any reason whatsoever up until the time of birth.

It’s getting too late to keep thinking and typing much more about this, so this is a fairly shallow post, I know. Oh, well. I guess we’ll see what happens in a few weeks! All I can do is vote my conscience, and let everyone else vote his. I just wish there were a viable conservative candidate. I might just vote for a non-viable one anyway. We’ll see.


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  1. spiderperson said, on October 14, 2008 at 1:36 am

    Obama may be no able to implement his Socialism fully, but I am afraid that he will still get some judges to his liking on the Supreme Court – unless God gives those judges really good health 🙂

    That’s true. I hadn’t thought of that last night. Good point to remember.

  2. Tony Sidaway said, on October 14, 2008 at 6:45 am

    No, the purpose of Freedom of Choice Act is as follows:

    Prohibiting state and federal government entities from

    1) denying or interfering with a woman’s right to choose to bear a child, to terminate a pregnancy prior to viability, or to terminate a pregnancy after viability where termination is necessary to protect the life or health of the woman

    2) discriminating against a woman’s exercise of these rights in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information

    It’s basically to stop the states nibbling away at the edges of the freedoms guaranteed under the constitution.

  3. Kathy said, on October 14, 2008 at 11:38 am


    We will forever disagree on this — for one thing, I vehemently disagree that a woman murdering her child in utero is one of the “freedoms guaranteed under the constitution.” The so-called “right to privacy” doesn’t make it unconstitutional for a woman to arrested for privately doing drugs or privately being a prostitute, although these things are arguably done only to her own body, as opposed to someone else’s (her fetus’s) body.

    Although I’m not Catholic, here is a webpage which I agree with. “Codifying Roe” is just a nice-sounding phrase that does not let the American public understand the full scope of what FOCA is about.

    Abortion is *never* necessary after viability to “protect the life or health of the woman.” If the woman’s health or life are threatened, an early induction can be done — and it’s done every day in every state in the Union. Abortion is only done after viability because the woman has decided she doesn’t want to have a child — after having carried it for 24+ weeks. “Life or health” is a load of bull. “Health” has been defined so broadly as to include the family finances, so you’ll forgive me if I rightly say that FOCA would allow abortions post-viability for any reason whatsoever.

    There are occasions pre-viability in which the woman’s life is actually threatened (ectopic pregnancy is one such); almost every other condition can be treated medically, although sometimes doctors will not treat some conditions such as hyperemesis gravidarum with medicines which are available, leaving these women who are so sick that they may actually die from dehydration and starvation (due to not being able to keep down any food or water), with the only recourse of abortion. But not because it is “necessary”, because there are medications, such as Zofran, which are safe enough to take during pregnancy, and do marvellous things when it comes to nausea and vomiting.

    I am a “birth junkie” and a childbirth educator, so believe me, you’re on my turf when you try to talk about pregnant women. I’m also a very strong pro-life proponent, so you will not change my mind that it is murdering the innocent unborn simply because a woman has decided not to have a baby at this particular junction, after she has conceived it.

  4. Tony Sidaway said, on October 14, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    You lost me at “murdering”.

    I also agree with the bulk of the website you pointed at; however I see those effects of the bill as good effects, undoing the severe harm that has been done by anti-abortionists and restoring Roe v. Wade to its original sense.

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